ANSWER: We reject her evidence for several reasons. We refer in particular to her article on CMOMM posted on 28 September 2015, on the lack of credible evidence that Madeleine was seen alive after Sunday, link here: http://jillhavern.forumotion.net/t11921-was-madeleine-seen-after-sunday-no-credible-evidence-that-she-was-watch-the-video? Maddie 'killed by sleeping pill overdose'. It is a fact that from about 8am on Friday 4 May, the news of Madeleines reported disappearance rapidly became the top story in both Portugal and Britain for weeks - and has continued to make international headlines ever since. Although it was a five-hour journey from his cottage in the countryside around Ronda, Spain, he managed to reach Praia da Luz. In our view the involvement of Robert Murat in this case is another significant pointer to Madeleine having died on the Sunday. The apartment. Whilst this doesnt prove that Jane Tanner and Robert Murat were in Krokowskis apartment that week, it certainly raises at least the possibility that they were. First of all, what is known for sure about the period between 6pm and 10pm? From this, the police were able to trace the man who was driving the car. AA. 29 Jul 2020. Do we know for sure that Madeleine was with her family in her apartment at 6pm? Mrs Pamela Fenn, a widow who lived above the McCanns, heard Madeleine crying between 10.30pm and 11.45pm on Tuesday night. Three-year-old Madeleine McCann vanished from a Portuguese holiday apartment almost 15 years ago. There is evidence that the British Embassy in Portugal arranged for Murat to become the main translator for the Portuguese police in the days following Madeleine being reported missing. This booking appears to have been made on the Sunday night. In addition, the Portuguese police appear to have received the images on a black-and-white program which only reproduced them as grainy greyscale images which made them very difficult to analyse. Excerpts from the book by Gonalo Amaral, who believes that Madeleine McCann died inside the apartment at Praia da Luz. The Portuguese police became convinced that this must be the man whom Jane Tanners evidence suggested had abducted Madeleine. This points us in the direction of Madeleine having come to serious harm shortly after that photo was taken. There is agreement from the McCanns, their friends, other holidaymakers and Ocean Club staff that they were all settled at their table at around 8.30pm to 8.45pm. . Catriona Baker also had a holiday at the McCanns home a few months after Madeleine was reported missing, suggesting a close relationship between them.. Clear evidence that the McCanns pattern of behaviour changed after Sunday in the following ways: Taking breakfast every day after Sunday in their own apartment and not with their friends in the restaurant. But it later emerged that the Director and his deputy from a Bell Pottinger. Here is what each of the two men actually wrote: This was how Tavares de Almeida expressed the investigations preliminary conclusion I will just reproduce his first six points: From everything that we have discovered, our files result in the following conclusions: he minor Madeleine McCann died in Apartment 5A at the Ocean Club resort in Praia da Luz, on the night of 3 May 2007, imulation - a staged hoax - of an abduction took place, n order to render the childs death impossible before 10.00pm, a situation of checking of the McCann couples children while they slept was concocted, Dr Gerald McCann and Dr Kate McCann are involved in the concealment of the corpse of their daughter, Madeleine McCann, t this moment, there seems to be no strong indications yet that the childs death was other than the result of a tragic accident. Madeleine McCann is "assumed" to be dead, say German prosecutors, who are investigating the disappearance of the British girl in . Mitchell once boasted that his job was to control what comes out in the media. German prosecutors said they have "strong evidence" that missing UK toddler Madeleine McCann is dead, as . An ex-pat living in Spain, Jon Clarke, had created a successful newspaper for ex-pats, the Olive Press. There are two different versions of who made the booking, which in itself is strange. June 4, 2020, 5:01 AM PDT. . placed the two cots in position, placed a bed by the window, opened the shutters, windows and curtains to make it look like an abductor had broken into the apartment. A German prosecutor has said he is "sure" that Madeleine McCann -- the British girl who disappeared from a resort in Portugal in 2007 at the age of three -- was killed by suspect Christian Brckner. "All we have ever wanted is to find her, uncover the truth and bring those responsible to justice," her parents, Kate and Gerry, said in a statement issued before the German prosecutor spoke. Evidence that the children of the McCanns and their friends were cared for in one room from Sunday night onwards. We do not think it was. Tavares de Almeida and Goncalo Amaral suggested Madeleine might have had an accident, perhaps a fall, and been killed as a result of that fall - after about 6pm on Thursday 3 May. If she died after 6pm on Thursday 3 May, what would the McCanns and their friends have had to do in the four hours between 6pm and 10pm? The 'Last Photo' shows Gerry McCann, Madeleine and her sister Amelie by the Ocean Club swimming pool. The McCanns seemed to know influential people in the TV media and were successful in contacting them in the early hours of the morning and getting headline news about Madeleines disappearance onto the early Friday morning bulletins. So we suggest that all these things must have all happened, in approximately this order: (iii) Can we pass this off as a genuine accident? On the very night when the McCanns and their friends should have been distraught, following Madeleines sudden disappearance, some of them were busy contacting the TV and print media and claiming, even in the very first hours after they had raised the alarm, that the Portuguese police were incompetent and not organising a proper search for her. This unidentified, anonymous neighbor tells the McCanns she saw a car going up the Rocha Negra at night. The body, the existence of which has been confirmed by the EVRD and CSI dogs but also by the results of the preliminary laboratory analyses, cannot be found. reminiscent of the death of Princess Diana in 1997.Her parents . Madeleine McCann disappeared 15 years ago when she was 3-years-old when . She described a man of medium height, with long black hair, wearing cloth clothes and classic shoes, who didnt look like a tourist. The appointment by Tony Blair of his most senior PR officer, Clarence Mitchell, the Director of the Media Monitoring Unit at the Central Office of Information, and responsible directly to the Cabinet Office, to head up the governments PR initiative in support of the McCanns. He notes, as Kate McCann herself admits, that she washed Madeleines pyjamas on the morning of 3 May. They even got the German police to search the plane for Madeleine at Berlin Airport. (i) They could say that Madeleine must have wandered off somewhere, (ii) They could say that they took her down to the beach and she got swept out to sea, (iii) Or could we get away with faking an abduction. Then (assuming that they then decided that they are not going to inform the authorities of Madeleines death) there are more decisions to be made about what to do with Madeleines body: Or phone a trusted friend first and ask for advice? In the intervening years, a huge, costly police operation has taken place across much of Europe . We also need to bear in mind that on the basis of the PJ theory as it stands, this was a holiday to a place the McCanns had never been to before. There is, further, evidence that Catriona Baker was already known to the McCanns. (ii) What shall we all do after we raise the alarm? Kate and Gerry McCann, the parents of the missing 4-year-old British girl Madeleine McCann, hold up a picture of Madeleine during a press conference on June 6, 2007 in Berlin, Germany. As a result, Goncalo Amarals team wasted valuable time on only the second full day of their investigation contacting the German and Polish police and INTERPOL. The McCanns say the photo was taken at 2.29pm on Thursday 3 May. http://onlyinamericablogging.blogspot.com/2016/03/a-nightwear-job-by-dr-martin-roberts.html. spatters on the walls could have been caused by mosquitoes crashing (v) Would we be investigated by the police? When they were told that the smell of death and blood had been found in their apartment and hire car, they hurriedly came up with a series of improbable explanations for this: Blood spatters on the walls could have been caused by mosquitoes crashing into the wall, Madeleine has grazed her knee climbing up the steps to the aeroplane, The dogs has alerted to rotting meat, not the odour of a corpse, The dogs had alerted to dirty nappies, not the odour of a corpse, Kate McCann had certified six deaths in the two weeks before going on holiday, thats why the smell of death was on her clothes. Only one other photo of Madeleine was taken that week, the so-called Tennis Balls Photo. In such a scenario, how likely is it that all six friends would have agreed within, say, 5-10 minutes that they would all play their roles in a fake abduction? Getting all the children changed and ready for bed and asleep before they set off for dinner? The children were sleeping at the back of their apartment, so there was nothing for the McCanns to see from the Tapas restaurant. Her accounts lack any real detail of what Madeleine actually did in the creche that week. M ay 3, 2007 - Madeleine McCann disappears from her apartment in Praia da Luz.. May 4 - Police do not set up effective searches or alert the Spanish border for 12 hours. 28 votes, 55 comments. 7 April: Three . No satisfactory explanation for this has ever been provided. H. Clear photographic evidence that the same pyjamas Madeleine had with her on holiday in Praia da Luz were later held up by the McCanns at two press conferences, one in London on 5 June 2007, the other in Amsterdam on 7 June . Gerald Patrick McCann (born 1968 in Glasgow) attended Holyrood R.C. This is consistent with her having been dead for some time before she was reported missing. Over thirteen years ago, on 3 May 3 2007, three-year-old Madeleine McCann vanished from a holiday apartment in Portugal's Praia de Luz, while her parents Kate and Gerry . No DNA of Madeleine was found in the McCanns apartment, nor on her clothes nor on objects she had used or come into contact with on holiday, e.g. Quite apart from anything else, why did he delay for six days reporting a man taking photos of children on a beach and who later that day tried to kidnap his daughter? "The public prosecutor's office in Braunschweig is investigating a 43-year-old German national on suspicion of murder.". The McCanns and their friends had eight children with them on that holiday. For an optimal experience visit our site on another browser. They then said that the samples could have been from Madeleine but also that this could not be stated with any certainty. McCann used to carry Madeleines favourite cuddly toy, Cuddle It was very early - Madeleine might very well have been found alive and well later that Friday - but on that very day, many media editors immediately despatched reporters to Praia da Luz. But those who claim that Madeleine died after 6pm have to explain how the McCanns were able to pull off an audacious abduction within the four hours between 6pm and 10pm (when the alarm was raised) on Thursday 3 May. Her disappearance sparked an international search, with missing posters of the little girl's face papered across the world and celebrity appeals for information that could help track her down and bring her abductors to justice. Was this an accident? Just our other good friends Russell and Jane? There is no other photo of Madeleine which with certainty can be said to have been taken after then, which we regard as hugely significant. Madeleine Beth McCann (born 12 May 2003) is a British missing person who disappeared from her bed in a holiday apartment in Praia da Luz, Portugal, on the evening of 3 May 2007, at the age of 3. Her accounts lack any real detail of what Madeleine actually did in the creche that week. Catriona Baker was in sole charge of the Lobsters creche of seven children (including Madeleine) the week the McCanns were in Praia da Luz. Some of the men the McCanns employed were out-and-out crooks, like Antonio Giminez Raso from Metodo 3 and Kevin Haligen of Oakley International, both of whom spent four years in jail for crimes, respectively, of corruptly assisting a major drugs gang, and major fraud. He is currently in detention over a different matter. dogs had alerted to dirty nappies, not the odour of a corpse, Kate Was there a meeting of some kind there that week? It was Wojchiech Krokowski, a man from Poland on holiday with his wife for the week. If so, they would need to demonstrate that the shutters were previously in good working order. Is it possible that the McCanns and advisers were already planning to claim that the shutters had been jemmied open and smashed by the abductor on Thursday? They said they were treating the case as a suspected murder and had determined the method used to kill McCann. Later, when re-interviewed by the Portuguese police on 10 and 11 July, after police had interrogated his mobile phone, and discovered that the account he had earlier given of his movements was false, he completely changed his story, claiming he had been too tired on 15 May to tell the truth. What time shall we get her to say she saw someone? avares de Almeida and Goncalo Amaral suggested Madeleine might have had an accident, perhaps a fall, and been killed as a result of that fall - after about 6pm on Thursday 3 May. We think there are good grounds for suspecting that the two photos may have been taken on the same day, and that Madeleines very sad appearance could be connected in some way to her having died later that same day. It would also be consistent with the apartment having been forensically cleansed before the alarm was raised and Madeleines clothes and other items having been removed or disposed of. This booking appears to have been made on the Sunday night. However, we are persuaded, largely by evidence on the two 'Last Photo' threads on CMOMM, that the Last Photo was taken at lunchtime on Sunday 29 April. What happened then in the apartment remains a mystery. He was on an extended stay in England (Devon) when the McCanns went on holiday to Praia da Luz in 2007, 4. he room forensically cleaned of any blood? But, according to the PJ theory, they must have been. However, she (of course) failed to mention that the dog had been right all along. She said she spoke to a friend of hers, Edna Glyn, while the crying was going on, but neither of them did anything about it. We have given, above, some general considerations as to when Madeleine may have died. We agree with his explanation, which can be viewed here: http://onlyinamericablogging.blogspot.com/2016/03/a-nightwear-job-by-dr-martin-roberts.html, Specific indications that Madeleine died on Sunday 29 April. Amaral and his team (rightly) rejected all claims by the McCanns that Madeleine was alive after 6pm on 3 May because, obviously, they were made by someone who was not independent. There would then have to be a rapid decision-making process during which all the following decisions would have to be taken: Can we pass this off as a genuine accident? It seems unlikely. The 'Last Photo' shows Gerry McCann, Madeleine and her sister Amelie by the Ocean Club swimming pool. If there had been a bad accident, or something equally bad had happened, who would clean the room? Michael Shrimpton reacts to this week's overblown reports of a 'fresh' development in the Madeleine McCann case. All of these circumstances simply serve to confirm the alerts of the dogs and show that the McCanns account of events was not correct and that Madeleine was NOT abducted. He took the early morning flight to Faro, Portugal from Exeter at 7am the very next day, Tuesday 1 May. On both, Madeleine was wearing a pink hair bead. Finally, they would have to arrange the crime scene, that is, the childrens bedroom, to make it look like an abduction had occurred - moved the beds. Lourenco had evidently planned to call the police and already knew of the description that Jane Tanner had given to the police. The very next day, early in the morning, a man called Nuno Lourenco rang the Portuguese police and said that, six days previously, a man was taking photographs of children on a beach had tried to kidnap his child at a tiny village called Sagres. certificates, thats why the smell of death was on Cuddle Cat. It would also be consistent with the apartment having been forensically cleansed before the alarm was raised and Madeleines clothes and other items having been removed or disposed of. She did not make her statement until 20 August - over three-and-a-half months after the event. All other claimed sightings of Madeleine on 3 May are equally unproven and open to serious doubt. It was very early - Madeleine might very well have been found alive and well later that Friday - but on that very day, many media editors immediately despatched reporters to Praia da Luz. We have given, above, some general considerations as to when Madeleine may have died. A raft of evidence, but especially comparative weather records for the week, point in that direction. Madeleine could not have died after 6pm on Thursday 3 May. (iv) Where can we get a car quickly so as to hide it? He also described the man as of medium height, with long black hair, wearing cloth clothes and classic shoes, who didnt look like a tourist. This situation may raise questions concerning the circumstances in which the death of the child took place. Here, quite apart from the matters dealt with above, are several other specific indications that an abduction hoax was indeed planned over a four-day period: The relevant facts are these. There would have been a severe emotional reaction and initial panic, and maybe a series of irrational responses, before they could properly gather their thoughts and begin to come to terms with the shock of losing their daughter and start planning how to cover it up. Recommended Stories The . 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