england is depressing and full of chavs

But in hindsight, when the Brexit vote came up, practically the whole company was for leave. James, I'm sure you never heard of Carl Schmitt even though you're living in Germany who was a political philosopher. Dear Sarah, New Zealand truly is a wonderful place. I'm not surprised at all that you're leaving the UK! Thank you for being so honest, sharing your feelings, and writing this post. I'm sure you will find your (almost) perfect city/country! 02/05/2012 12:25pm BST. They still believe in the purity of Japanese blood and parents discourage mixed marriage. This means that I was born abroad, came here and worked very hard to integrate myself to the point I would be accepted and deemed to be called a British citizen. It's a quid pro quo, no? I am struggling in this last year or so. 'Avant-garde fashion and full of chavs' - Lincolnshire described in vicious online write-ups. High standards, high expectations, high quality living. This didn't stop me, though, I persevered until I got accepted. I can probably tell you something fantastic about a lot of them. We have such moderate weather that it poses the least threat to life of anywhere in the world. Used as a backdrop to clips of - primarily . And dozens of other things if you bothered to look it up, which you aren't. Once I would have thought you were exaggerating. We lived there 40+ years. I am not a young person but to find work in Canada is miserably difficult unless you live in a major City. My Mum is a immigrant from the EU & has shared all the experiences you have pointed out, which too makes me rethink the perception of the country Ive always lived in. Learn more. My husband and I are also heading to that same direction, I'm keeping everything cross. Every time mum came to visit, she always said how much she loves shopping for food in the UK. Honestly its all in how you phrase it, lovely. Yet, almost 9 Million (!) I was robbed in broad daylight too on another occasion. My hubby and I left the UK in 2013 for the same reasons. After having lived in Canada (citizen), USA (Green Card) worked across the world including Australia, Middle East, most countries in the EU visited many other countries, it is my opinion that the UK is crap. I'm glad you had the chance to go for a brighter future abroad. But personally I just don't think I really want to stay long term in a country without a summer lol also the drinking culture is so unhealthy. For me, however, there have been two really important breaking points between me and England. It's not true about the weather at all! You're so much better than those who dared to vote Leave or god forbid for Trump, aren't you? Is it because you're desperately trying to get away, and you can't? It is the term Chav that is uncommon to me. The great educated gentleman is obsolete and the fine lady is on a verge of collapse. You have NO IDEA that you have written exactly what I feel. Going south helps, but the salaries are way too low to afford it too often. 10) Blackburn. After the Brexit vote, people started attacking immigrants, and even immigrant looking Brits. I was born in the uk to italian parents who came over in the 50s. I had a really interesting reaction reading this. It's very hard to leave! I strongly suggest that you may sometimes take the time to travel a little and open your horizons. I might be back to UK to visit Stratford but not sure when, and I hope the situation will get much better during my return trip. Found your blog googling "the UK sucks" :') Many people don't have a voice but you gave them a voice. These problems in the UK will change perhaps in 300 years, we cannot wait. We were the first country to be industrialised, like most of the world now, and our parliamentary system is followed the free world over. I mean let's spend millions on exiting. I do hope you move to Barcelona soon! They showed me a name. When we got married we decided to live someplace else and experience different cultures. Its refreshing to see the honesty of the article. I too admired the great minds that had achieved many great (and terrible) things around the world in our history and wanted to emulate the elements of the "British Gentleman". This results in you learning to cook a variety of world dishes. Of course, many people want to be English, that's why they come here. Anyway long story short because I could reference many examples of me seeing racism and ignorance, openly and behind closed doors from other people and my self included too and learning from my own mistakes and developing as a person because we don't always have positive influences in our lives and at times I have held points of view that I would be ashamed to think about now. You insult our country and our people. Thank you for writing this article, it is absolutely spot on and details my feelings on living in the UK to a tee. Thanks again! But there are a damnsight more British born citizens abusing the system in the same way. Great post other than the politics! I cannot accept hundreds of people commenting that "the best interest" of someone's kid is to die, without letting the parents try a lost battle, basically to protect the bottom line of the country coffers. We weren't happy in our home country either. In case you dont know much about Balkan food (clearly you dont), we have kebabs (mici in Romania, cevapi in ex-Yugoslavia countries), spicy vegetable spreads and dips, apple, cherry and pumpkin pies and strudels, sour noodle soups, SEASONINGS (so shocking for British palates I know) such as paprika, chilli sauces, garlic dips, shawarmas (thats another kebab for you), cheesy or jam filled doughnuts, the cabbage rolls you mentioned are filled with meat, rice and spices! 30 for petrol is not accounting for car insurance, depreciation on the car, your time spent driving rather than working/reading/sleeping on the train etc. And it's great that we can drive from A to B without being stopped at the borders for passport controls. I guess it's a "grass is always greener" situation for all of us lately. I like the rush, the culture there, the weirdness of it. Nobody is going to vote "leave" and nobody is going to vote for "Trump". Newbiggin is a small fishing village in Northumberland North East, crawling with dressing gown wearing teenage mums, underage smokers and drinkers, and loud rowdy locals! All thanks to the naive and ignorant older generation. Once again, thanks for this post, I will be recommending it to my friends. Even the EU will effectively stop migration from the UK, we are becoming the equivalent of India and Africa with illegal migrants from the UK trying to slip into far better countries. [30], Characters described as "chavs" have been featured in numerous British television programmes, as well as films. Please do not come back. I know exactly how you feel as me & my husband are going through the same. I believe it is a feature of geography. I've always lived here and there's lots to be grateful for but well, I find it just a little bit depressing. When you get ill on your travels, take a British penicillin. Thank you for your message. The term floated about beforehand, but in the 2000s it was on steroids. Please read again . But this is expected seeing how it's in their blood. As a lower class Brit I can honestly say that I too am starting to feel unsafe here. I personally think that is more noble. Somehow strongly connected with the point above, there is the problem of the land management in the UK. The term is used to describe an anti-social lower-class youth dressed in sportswear. I have degrees in Business and Cyber Security. On the contrary, the positive is that now I value Italy so so much more and I understand how brainwashed I was about British culture (my English friends were laughing about my naivety as well). I am having a bit of a quarter life crisis in that I'm really struggling to come to terms with living in the UK for much longer at the age of 25. P.S. Anyway, good luck How on earth can you say the roads in the Uk are well maintained????? We know their views, arguments are thoughts are expired. Everyone did something about it. Thanks to the withdrawal agreement my degree is worth less in the EU compare to what it used to be. "Gainsborough is a town that barely figures on a map of the area, let alone England, set in the . So, the tribalism, is everywhere in the world and the UK is still one of the most open and tolerant countries in the world. Plus I wouldn't want to negate your experience anyway. I was alive when Tony Benn was in government and the UK had a 3-day week power shortage and no rubbish collection. I've lived in 6 different countries, and in my opinion, the UK offer the worst quality of life. Unfortunately there are a lot of uncultured and racist people in the UK, its so disappointing. Can you imagine that? That level of institutionalised class violence and prejudice is not something I want to be associated with. I know the feeling of no sunshine. Also your whole comment is actually quite racist. I cannot afford to stay here. We have a shitty secondary education system and a generation of younger people who think that the world owes them something. As a writer, I thrived during rainy days as melancholia hit. And what about the human rights of Tommy Robinson, jailed in media secrecy without due process. I hope you find your reality somewhere and leave us racist, poor, thick bits to struggle on without you. Not just weather, lifestyle or even landscape. We called it our long honeymoon. They don't care for the virtuous and preachy nonsense that London obsesses with whilst the roads get more clogged, economy tanks etc. Ridiculously so in comparison to other countries, and that is the problem. People now are insular and small minded, dogmatic and unfriendly. In the 25 yrs since we started University, my cousin who came from tropical island, studied here - and shocked the family by returning home, visited recently (on business). Even the communities which have not integrated over 40-50yrs (lessons learnt? Ring any bells? I came back due to family, but Im itching to get the hell out of here and go travelling again, and head back to Australia. Looking at the OECD date, Britain ranks as the 11th safest country and #1 with amongst countries with a population bigger than 50 Million. I'm an immigrant to the UK - welll technically not right now as I'm yet in the midst of another visa application - mostly due to Brexit delays. I went from happy to lucky travel blog writer that loved adventure and spontaneity to not wanting to get up in the morning. On the other hand education and public health work much better than in Chile, this is very good because people can access good services regardless of their economic situation. Well, England has gotten less safe because of the mass invasion of fighting age males from overpopulated Muslim countries. The weather and the cost of housing compared to net salary are also the 2 biggies for me. Really interesting read and I wish you both the best of luck in your new nomadic adventure! It gets to you when you need to ride your bike home whilst getting wet to the bones. Can you believe that it was because of Harry Potter that I wanted to move to the UK? Thank you Jordan! I visited once when I was twenty and finally made the move after marrying my EU husband in my late twenties. You can always visit though. Are used to see my country as a liberal looking and pleasant place. less than in any other country in Europe. Britain's infrastructure cannot cope with the population. I'm 30, resident of south East Northumberland in my childhood and then Newcastle as an adult, and have known the term Charver for as long as I can remember. Our education system definitely needs an upgrade so British people stop being so ignorant about our history. Oblivious as I was at the beginning, I soon realised that I was somehow treated differently than my fellow British friends. The UK didn't. The actual government policy is discriminatory. Since 2008, Britain has culturally been in a self-inflicted spiral decline of crisis. Is England a good place to live? I identify as immigrant as I'm British Naturalised and recently returned home from spending most of the last decade living overseas in Asia-Pac (Australia and Singapore). Enjoy: Thatcher, back in the 80s, spearheaded the trend of heavy reliance on spin and marketing to bolster her politics aims. Nevertheless, I wanted to tell the world what is going on and why we honestly wanted to leave the country. Family and good friends are what make life worthwhile. I put the blame on the U.K. government and to some extent the EU. Well, let's look closer. This got me thinking. No, I haven't experienced any racism here in North Yorkshire. We contribute more to the country than many others. However, most countries do not want Brits and their drunken, loutish behaviour coupled with a very misplaced sense of importance. All the best and happy travels to you too. British people *know* their country is in decline. This worked up to a point! I wish I could say something positive like I think things will change, or at least it's just a minority, but unfortunately I don't think those things are true. We should all be free to live a happy life everywhere. Because they read too much of the Daily Mail and have come to believe that Mohammad who owns the corner shop and Sunita who works in the local Indian aren't law-abiding, hard-working citizens but terrorists, despite having lived here longer than some of us have been alive! Dear awesome British people out there. Us British have enough problems with American and Russ. So what went wrong? I think we'd agree with just about every point you've raised about the UK. No one rolled out a red carpet when my parents came to this country to work in the beloved NHS. Throughout my university years, I inevitably made friends with a lot of politics students. [28] Writer Owen Jones also criticised the use of the term in his book Chavs: The Demonization of the Working Class. Britain is the best example of what it's like to have a split personality. Net migration of 300,000 per year on an island with 64 million inhabitants is unsustainable, especially when most of the population lives in a corridor between Leeds / Manchester and London. Dear Rhiannon, thank you for your comment. I wish you happiness :), I got in Uk 17 years ago , a child 20 at that time ,didnt know what the future holds .Moving on , two children now, a house in mortgages, and a difficult financial situation. My husband and I made the big move from Australia to the US in 2015. What we're seeing now is a massive difference in the scale and effectiveness of these campaigns thanks to the pervasive nature of internet data mining and the use of techniques in machine learning to spot trends and correlations, coupled with lessons from the field of behaviourism, to weaponise the information. There are so many Brits in Spain and Portugal. The economy is still favourite for young entrepreneurs, hungry consumerists and investors. I think people like this author who want to attack the UK and the British people should LEAVE PERMANENTLY as their self centred bigotry will never change. There are many wonderful things that I love about the British culture and I am glad that I spent a chunk of my childhood there, but there are also many aspects that repel me and that I even find quite appalling. This country has ace roads in comparison to other places we've lived in. The non-whites you do have in YOUR government are actively working against their own people's interests (Patel and Sunak come to mind) and they are highly xenophobic. I wish you and your husband the best of luck on your travels and next adventure in life!!! How can you call that democracy? My birth country is a tropical island paradise in the Indian Ocean. Sorry for the belated reply. We enjoyed the crazy amount of products, the fantastic range of online shopping and the quality customer service. They are more racist Im afraid, albeit in a passive way. Is there an article of apology that I have missed? I love the UK, it is my home and it is all I have known. :-(. I know exactly how you feel. I was a covard and I even lied to myself for a good 3 years before that. Im born and bread British and I hate it! Sometimes foreigners dont understand this and confuse our ambition and drive with anger. x. Hope you will make it to Canada someday. I was born in the UK and have never been made to feel alienated, but even I find this country ignorant and hateful at the best of times. Although we need more motorways, there are well-maintained roads in the country. This way people can live everywhere and not depend on the city which is too expensive. There is so much wrong with it I wouldn't know where to begin in pointing out the almost endless flaws. Why dont you go and live there then? For me, moving to the UK where I've traveled a few times a year for over 20 years for work and fun - is about spending time with friends and loved ones there and the opportunity to travel Europe much easier. According to Expatistan here are some things you have to take into account: Monthly rent for 85 m2 (900 Sqft) furnished accommodation in EXPENSIVE area 2,391 Complete and utter rubbish. We love ourselves enough to leave the place and never look back ;), Sarah, you are my hero! I dont think British food even begins to compare, and I actually like some British food. What a load of crap. I've been an expat but tbh happy to call myself immigrant too (as I once was to Britain as a 2yr old!). There is more hope for a limpet sucking the tits off the sun than the UK you fell in love with as a boy returns . The appalling racism, the hateful attitudes to foreigners, how difficult it is to find a (permanent, full-time) job, the unjust visa system - all of it is so difficult. Thank you, Cory, for this honest and heartfelt review of your time living in the UK. The Algarve, however, excellent place in Portugal. The culture of 'fair go,' work hard and play hard, and mostly, gratitude. it was real and people felt this way en masse. [33] The Times has referred to the character as "[a] chavvish girl",[34] and the character has been said to possess a "chav accent". Following university and moving into our careers, my wife and I have both enjoyed the fruits of our labour with work. A mark of this growing idiocy is the fact that a circus clown like Jacob Rees-Mogg can play a part in politics. Blackburn - the least worst town on the list (. Sadly, I am one of them. I'm an Autumn lover so basically, I get to enjoy a constant state of Autumn. And since the article is not about this, I'm going to refrain from further comments. I cannot tell you if Romania is better, or the UK, or any other country for that matter. Imagine not having power for your computer. UK is my dream after watching Harry Potter movies (call me silly or what), and then this trip just ruined it. I am treated like a stellar class citizen. Hence, the low growth and high house prices in London and SE. The blogger writes the country is nation of racists.then goes country hopping in Europe.only to return. What about equality between all European nations who wanted to live in a great union? This along with the supposed 1 million violent crimes committed due to alcohol per year and the 25% increase in liver diseases, suggests we can't handle our drink either. Being English is a privilege, the UK is a good country and one of the best in the world. It's like someone has brought all my thought and captured it in a well written text! Hi Sarah, we are super excited about our move. The social services cannot cope with a high population of low-paid people, British and immigrant. We just made positive gains as a society in how we viewed foreigners role within our society and gradually people became less extreme. Thank you so much for your honesty and strength. Thank you for your message. there are times I just break down in tears thinking about how screwed I really am and I am not a dual national so I cannot leave the United Kingdom any time soon even though I desperately want to leave. Great read, I stayed for a year in the UK and like reading your honest perspective on things after 10 years. I'm already considering buying an apartment in Tenerife - a true paradise of sunshine (good climate, great food, low cost of living). We are all ashamed of people like Hector and we wish they would become obsolete. Politics aside, I hope it gets better here, but I dont see it happening anytime soon. I don't know where you've seen Brits treated like slaves. Even if it is just a coincidence, I definitely get you when you say you feel as though you're treated differently. They just dont get to vote. Its sad what is happening with the world today. They want working age people who can contribute to their economy and integrate into their society. A person making an average salary probably doesn't work in an expensive area and the other way around. Always. In saying all the above and I agree with what I've written my family and I chose to.leave the uk to give our children a better life. The cost of HS2 is mainly in legal fees ! My living abroad was more a lesson for personal growth than it was for achieving happiness. The Euro was a huge mistake. We think you are awesome. I had been living in my liberal bubble my entire life and had surrounded my self with educated people who feel passionate about gender issues, race issues and really believe in the importance of creating a society which is fair for everyone, regardless of where they or their family are from. Apparently, I wrote, "Stacy" instead of "Stacey" on a reminder post-it which has nothing to do with official documentation, appointment book or customer-facing paperwork. But that does not justify mass immigration, and I say mass immigration because I am in favour of short immigration of few people and more controlled. Also, if Brexit is such a good idea, why not let Northern Ireland secede and let Scotland have its independence? Before the big crash in 2008 I felt a sort of charm about the UK that was such a huge part of my identity. It is people like you, with no allegiance or true connection with the UK, in other words pure economic migrants, nothing more, that are bring this country to its knees and have made it an awful place to live. But hey, thanks for stopping by to say hi. Dear Emma, I am glad you found your way in the world. Nicer weather, a little more affordable than London, and here I feel home (although I'm not from here originally). (eye roll as a Brown person). I felt I was just paying for a handed off degree (and I was in supposedly one of the top unis). Andy: The word 'chav' was in the news again last year following the England riots during an interview on Newsnight when David Starkey said that a substantial section of chavs had become black in terms of the culture they adopt and the way they speak and he got in quite a lot of trouble for saying it. I only just came across your article. why assume Philip de Bose is French? I have witnessed educated and talented individuals struggling to find work in this country while poorly educated locals get high up in management due to their connections! You may be from Scotland Wales or Northern Ireland which would make your question laughable. This helped me feel not so alone <3. But, my ex-husband recounts exactly all of this (or at least the economic bits - he's on board with the xenophobia) so I believe it. Munich has virtually no chavs, as long as you don't hang outside the two main stations too late and go to the Kultfabrik (soon-to-be-demolished club complex outside of the centre). We would love to rent a car and drive for hours. This means an average British person has a wardrobe full of Autumn clothing and about 10 different types of wellies. Get a grip! Maybe surprising to you but I voted for Brexit.let me explain why because I promise you, 17 million of us are not uneducated racists who believe everything The Sun and the Daily Express writes. No country is perfect, but if you consider our history, museums, NHS, free education, the honesty of our police force and courts, business opportunities, freedom of speech, music, religious diversity, food safety (a huge problem in Asia by the way), lack of corruption, the countryside, quality of regulation, its military, animal rights, gender equality, gay rights, time zone, infrastructure, I still content the UK is one of the best countries to live in the world. I cant afford anything! But I very much defend the English when they say that they do not want to have more immigrants, no one likes to have mass immigration, no country wants it, and that must be respected. Dickhead. This makes your comment about separating rubbish as a frustration a little lacking in historical context. In fact, we think it was the best decision ever. [4] In Newfoundland, "skeet" is used in a similar way,[5] while in Australia, "eshay" or "adlay" is used. Something that would not be possible in my home country (Germany) to that extend. If that happened in the UK, there would be an international outcry. The realisation that my expectations of London were all wrong led me into severe depression. We are excited to have started our adventure, and we don't regret leaving the UK. The Weather There are a lot of benefits to having so much rain in the UK. With my partner we feel the same and are struggling with hate/ underestimation and xenophobia in London for a long time. I have been unable to find work in my field because they don't know what to do with my qualifications ('You need a UK qualification'), and the algorithm ber-usage in this country is insane. There are idiots on both sides, but probably many more thoughtful and intelligent people on both sides as well. Its good to hear that you are happy now you have moved back to the UK. Eu membership is brilliant for immigrants like her who get immediate access to all the UK facilities, including the NHS and benefits. I love how you touched on just how expensive it is to travel in the UK too, especially by train (not that they ever run on schedule anyways!). Am I wrong? I was getting a little agitated reading the political part of this post as it puts anyone who voted brexit into one racist/moronic box. It was really interesting to read this from another perspective. See how you feel, see if you like it or not. London has less rain per annum than Bucharest, look it up. But I'm not shocked. The Fabian Society have been highly critical of the BBC in using the term in broadcasts. Nonetheless, the dark side usually has cookies :), I can imagine you want to escape the rain. I do agree that Brexit is a good thing because it will force Europe to grow and be better in business and improve their own cities and cooperation without a tick such as England. Cory published her first book on Japanese customs and manners, because she's obsessed with everything Japan. I have even found happiness in giving up my life as the career city girl for a stay at home mom and have never been happier. You can rent a PO box for your business and move it there. AHEAD of Sweden, Germany or Japan. The honesty, authenticity and intelligence with which you wrote about your personal experience of England and becoming English as a foreigner, sounds like a universal truth, and answered my every question. Would you come and live in the UK or would you rather take the road somewhere warmer? I'm always asked whether or not I would move back and honestly, especially as a result of recent events and where things seem to be headed, I wouldn't. Because I was a Law student whereby language skills were paramount. I am glad you found a country to call home, and hope you'll enjoy there! I am Indian (ethnically) but not from the subcontinent (haha British Colonialism made immigration in my DNA!). -Cuisine- LOL. Ive been to India, and well to be honest its also a shithole to quote you! Answer (1 of 23): An answer to this obviously hugely depends on where (and whether, given we're asking the rest of the UK in this question too) you live/visit in England, and also has to take on the idea of whether or not 'everyone else' finds England depressing. Don't confuse friendliness with openness. I voted to Remain but even I know the EU has undermined democracy. Agreed! I want to thank you from all my heart that you took the time to tell us we are welcome. I am so glad I left that world. I'm still searching for the answer but got lost somewhere along the way. I agree what you said 90%. Chavette" is a related term referring to female chavs, and the adjectives "chavvy", "chavvish . Lets forget the Europeans for a minute , delusional Brits think as an Indian I must find the UK to be a paradise but I absolutely HATE it. [1] ". Reflecting back, much of the racism I experienced and felt was in the media: TV and especially Press. Hahaha I know this is an older comment but I just wanted to address the food thing for the benefit of more recent readers. The living quality and standards are just so much better in most other countries I have lived in (Ireland included) that I lost my willingness to try and live here. I thought it had to do with me but the more I got to know more locals and foreigners like myself, the more I realised that was just the way life in London was. The rising sentiment of racism is felt the world over. Will I ever go back to the UK? So the big thing I'm thinking about is with the meteoric rise or location independent working opportunities over the last 5 to 10 years and the growing unattractiveness of British society what kind of impact is this going to have on the skills based economy of Britain over the next 10 to 20 years? For a while, it didn't bother me, until one day, I got rejected after a two-week job trial. But the vast majority of people in the UK seem to be relatively well off. It created the perfect environment for me to work, write and create. The best years were probably (economically and socially) from mid 1990's, 1993 until 2008 (esp the boom Blair years). The main reason is that I see the EU as being an impossible project, led by weak consensus politicians with no grand vision for economic growth. Least worst town on the U.K. government and to some extent the EU viewed foreigners role within our society gradually. Way people can live everywhere and not depend on the City which too! 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