Maybe what should come out of all this is some sort of program to break up such deadly illusions beforehand. "If you knew how an ASOS worked, you'd know it wasn't anything to do with being in IMC. Previous day, the aircraft had to divert to Twin Falls. If you understood how preliminary reports record meteorological information in the report format, you would have looked at the time of the observation, as recorded on page 2 in the "Meteorological Information and Flight Plan" block:Observation Facility, Elevation: KBYI,4143 ft mslObservation Time: 08:10 LocalIt should be obvious now that the calculations you made used an observation from 22 minutes prior to the accident. If you were a pilot you would know that warm/wet air has very little lift. The pilot did not bust minimums nor was this anywhere near an approach to minimums. Not enough time for the air frame to ice up from steam. It is the end of rational dialogue to follow the leftist crap who are "educating" my grandchildren. Yes,you are right, I did a copy and paste and wanted to refresh myself on comments on icing perhaps being a factor which I didn't know could happen in light snow. The silos were within TERPS requirements. At the processing plant she is less than 1/2 mile out and should have the runway in sight and been scanning between the avionics and outside. The plane headed towards Kenedy Regional Airport prior to crashing. The controller then instructed the pilot to execute the published missed approached and to report established [in the hold] at IREME, and to expect the same approach. They won't believe it if NTSB doesn't blame the impossible to overcome steam cloud in the final a couple of years hence. At 1407 Eastern Standard Time [] on 26 May 2019, a Cessna Aircraft Company T210M (C210), registered VH-SUX (SUX) and operated by Thomson Aviation, departed Mount Isa Airport for an aerial geophysical survey flight with a pilot and observer on board. Well he set the brake and forgot to release it. El Paso, TX USA Usually when someone does that in a 'Van it's with 20 or full flaps, in the hope of 'parachuting' the plane down to the runway, then adding a touch of throttle just before touchdown.4k hrs. On a hot day, fine droplets may evaporate before they can fall, so there is only rising air. pilots of america. The content is there, was always there. I will give the details below for others to replicate, but here are my conclusions:(1) If you start at 4800ft at JAMID, and then descend with a 3.75 degree angle from horizontal as advised on the published approach plate, you would clear the top of a 100' AGL stack by only *63 feet. Cessna 210-5 (205), N8149Z: Fatal accident occurred December 04, 2022 near Cleburne Regional Airport (KCPT), Johnson County, Texas . Having survived a Cessna 150 crash into a forest I can attest first hand that shoulder harness' save lives. The private pilot and flight instructor were fatally injured. One correction for your analysis: The elevation of the stack she hit is 4256' MSL in the FAA's obstacle database.Using your calculation of the flight path elevation at the stack, applying the FAA's verified stack elevation revises your math to: 4,365' - 4,256' = 109'.The top of the stack is 109' below the flight path. Yesterday's divert impact/scramble is fresh in pilot's mind.4. An Airmens Meteorological Information (AIRMET) advisory was active for icing and mountain obscurations for areas that included BYI.By the way, the automated weather facility at KBYI is an ASOS, not AWOS. There is no published airspeed for Engine Failure on Approach Emergency Checklist.Note: The Pratt and Whitney PT-6 Turbine was originally designed to pump water, hence the nomenclature PT for pump turbine. The Newmar Dutch Star is available in 37-, 40-, and 43-foot coaches. That is on pace with last year's 75 fatalities. It makes my heart sick to think about what this delightful person must have gone through. Last edited: Dec 22, 2021. While they are not flight data recorders in the normal sense, in a crash with no fire they can provide more than enough data for the NTSB to reconstruct what the aircraft was doing and was being presented to the pilot. Aviationdb shows N8361D, a Beech J35 registered to him 1998 thru 2014, N265VA RV-12 2014 thru 2017. LINKS:Kathryn's Report: http://www.kathrynsreport.com/2021/10/fatal-accident-occurred-october-11-2021.html#comment-formVasAviation: https://www.youtube.com/w. I totally agree with you. Precision matters to actual pilots. So 4,152' + 213' = 4,365' MSL at the smokestack. In the video, the pilot clearly was trying to extend the flight path as much as possible to the very last few seconds. It also involves the predicament of finding yourself hanging inverted in a very small space with waves surrounding your downed airplane. The only way throwing money at things would improve anything would be paying the surrounding businesses to move and take down their towers, stacks, and other obstacles that are preventing precision approaches, or move the entire airport to a more favorable location. Don't bust minimums, ladies and gents. Chunks of ice breaking off may be sucked into the engine and cause structural damage. In any case, one shouldn't have to look up obstacles in a database and do trig on them to brief a plate. It would be interesting to know if the FAA recommended to the plant that they voluntarily add a lighting system to that tall chimney or stack. Conveyor belts feed mash to the bottom surfaces of six huge, slowly rotating steel drums that are heated internally by steam. Agree that the silos and chimney were not a factor; I did a Google maps street view and nothing is very high on that property. Personal attacks and hate speech directed at the NTSB investigators, FAA investigators, Designated Pilot Examiners, Kathryn, as well as other members of the aviation blog, are unacceptable because they are not constructive. VIDEO! A highly paid government administrator owns that failure.Perhaps we should instead ask ourselves why our government prints money for the endless series of foreign wars and funding of every new citizen who wades across our southern border but we can't equip these airports with an ILS.Put 14 billion on it. The pilot was transported to a local hospital where their condition remains unknown. The plate shows 4,304 so I used that. Also no PAPI on that runway so no way to determine her glidepath without visual references. FYI, the 4304' obstacle shown on the RWY 20 approach plate plan view is NOT any of the stacks at Gem State plant. This is a place where we learn what not to do next time. Kathryn's Report: Cessna 560 Citation XLS+, N560AR: Fatal accident occurred September 02, 2021 near Robertson Field Airport (4B8), Plainville, Hartford County . You're missing his point entirely. We also know that this position was too low as thousands of other flights landed on that runway without hitting the stack.The MDH seems much lower than the OVC layer. Looking at obstacle markings on the BYI RW20 approach plate, it is interesting to compare to ALL of the HEYBURN-associated obstacles that exist in the current 16-ID.dat obstacle database.Notably, the 4179' obstruction shown by the river at 7th avenue in the inset runway detail of the plate is not in the database, appears to be Gossner's Magic Valley Chalet based on low height and location. Although Brittney passed away young, her adventurous, loving spirit led to an abundant life. Donations can be dropped off or mailed to Bill Allen Accounting at 533 Main St., Salmon, Idaho 83467. Really only SE piston and one helicopter showing on Flightaware. Witnesses on the ground said the plane's wings came off mid-air in high winds before a shower of debris fell from the sky. Display name: PaulS. KENEDY, Texas - According to a preliminary report, a single-engine Cessna 182 that crashed on Monday took off from New Braunfels National Airport in New Braunfels, Texas. Messages that harass, abuse or threaten other persons, such as threats to cause bodily harm, or that contain obscene or otherwise objectionable content, may result in the loss of your posting privileges. I would really like to see some *measured* data of the actual height of that tower before it was razed, as well as its MSL elevation. I'd be the same. This means the potato plant created artificial IFR conditions. first opened in 1940, and publicly-owned by the CITY OF BURLEY, ID. FlightAware displays altitudes as uncorrected pressure altitude, so you have to correct for the altimeter setting which in this case would add at least 50 feet.4. )Would a C208 pilot purposely establish/maintain the almost 50 knot slower accident approach speed after encountering the plume on the first approach? airworthiness of an aircraft or the current aircraft configuration. The plane took off from Kissimmee, Florida, and was . Their bond was unbreakable, and their most fun times were spent together, especially when traveling the world. I remember reading a story about a pilot who ditched in the ocean just off shore from a beach, maybe 20-30 yards out, and walked away uninjured. We don't need to be paying for ILS equipment when RNAV approaches allow the same minimums with zero additional ground signal equipment at a fraction of the cost. So if as you are saying she had the runway in sight, why on God's green earth was she 100 feet AGL a half-mile from the runway? She went on to graduate from ATP Flight School in Mesa, Arizona in 2019. The view under the wing would give you about a mile as reported at the airport. Cmores comment= enough said- til more is known. I only have about 8,000 hours behind PT engines, so what do I know? On February 2, 2021, at 1744 central standard time, a Cessna 182Q airplane, N4765N, was destroyed when it was involved in an accident near Hackberry, Louisiana. But if the temperature is warm (roughly 0C to -5C), wet snow mixed with liquid water could to stick to your airplane.Dec 11, 2021Frost disrupts the smooth flow of wind over the wing causing reduced lift. She was descending at 700 / minute. A few corrections:1. veteran helicopter pilot reviews kobe bryant crash air. This entrained air can be warmer than ambient, especially on a cold day. Quickest way to get there Cheapest option Distance between. October 10, 2021 9:53am. (see threads further below), It may show in this picture where the aircraft impacted the yellow ladder apparatus and dented the smokestack. The witness heard the engine increase in sound and saw the nose lift shortly before the airplane struck the smokestack and descend to the rooftop.". https://registry.faa.gov/N7181AA small plane crashed at the Watsonville Municipal Airport on Sunday afternoon. This can occur on take-off and landing and with sufficient rapidity to obscure the runway and other landmarks during a critical time in flight. If I have it wrong, please correct me. Pilots who flew this approach repeatedly should have realised the peril, and taken action. OTD in 1997, SilkAir Flight 185 crashes into the Musi River in Indonesia after abruptly diving from its cruise altitude. But mostly commercials.That helps in creating a neurotic anxious people who become good consumers and worker bees happy to get paid little in exchange for jingoism to be proud of. Can't imagine why this approach is even published. What does this flight have in common other than Idaho residents? The decision to divert was made before descending from cruise altitude. Loss of Control in Flight: Cessna 525C Citation . Controller com CESSNA Aircraft For Sale 1229 Listings. Perhaps it hit the chimney while the left wing just cleared the top. Perhaps he could have dumped full flaps and ground effected to just clear over the retreating water waves which is what they hit to flip over. Both wings, the propeller assembly, belly pod, and the nose wheel separated from the fuselage. If the snow flurry intensifies or the tater drying plume is solid and significant such that it's going to have to be descended through or the combined conditions will be imposing loss of visual for a period of time after having sighted the runway at MDA, a go around is the correct response.The accident pilot reportedly was not a first timer to BYI and for all of the NAVAID limitations you mentioned, a divert to Twin Falls (as had been done by whichever pilot was aboard on the day before the accident) was the choice to make if the visibility at the plant wasn't as reported by METAR during the two approach attempts. A financial firm CEO was killed along with three others when a small plane that he was flying crashed shortly after takeoff in Georgia, according to reports . ).Although there is not likely to be an easy way to know what google tolerance/accuracy is, my posting of the obstruction database for that stack referenced a pdf for decoding the raw record, which includes how to decipher the declared accuracy of the "verified" FAA obstruction info. Two small sections of the Cessna 340's left tip tank was located near the Cessna 152 wreckage. Non-credible to believe roof was perceived as runway with continuation all the way to impact by a pilot expecting the river to lay across the approach end of the runway as it had always been in every previous landing there. "From:http://backissues.smdp.com/090820.pdf(See pdf sheet 10). Warm Springs Police Chief Bill Elliott said the Warm Springs Dispatch Center received a report around 2:30 p.m. from Seattle Air Traffic Control of the possible plane crash in the area of the . Kathryn's Report: Most Read All Time. The "what happened" seems evident, but "why it happened" is unknown and will likely remain that way. Information is only available from news, social media or unofficial sources. They see the tater plant as a job producer airport more of a nuisance. Brittney went on to graduate from Utah State University with a degree in Finance in 2018. The collision smokestack is directly on centerline. About 0832:25, the airplane came into view in a wings-level, nose-high descent. Sorry. This Cessna had been built in 1974. (Hot air usually rises!) Preventing upper body collision with the instrument panel in relatively survivable accidents doesn't get enough consideration. Tater plant has more political clout and money then a city owned airport. Though it adds six inches of headroom, the feature is virtually invisible from the . "I have tried to comprehend the possible reasons for a Caravan to be flying below 90 knots and descending close to 900 feet per minute (per ADS-B/FlightAware) dangerously below the published Minimum Descent Altitude"You might want to comprehend this:1. Brittney was born on January 31, 1992 in Salmon, Idaho to Sharon and Jim Bob Infanger, their fifth child and second daughter. At some time before noon on August 7, 2020, a Turbo Cessna 210 took off from Roosevelt, Utah, for a fair-weather daytime flight. It's very possible she could see the runway but wasn't seeing the smoke stack for various reasons, Perhaps was not following the flight director and passing weather unexpectedly started dropping heavier mist and snow just long enough to obscure visual.Here is the NEXRAD weather playback for the 1400 to 1500Z period, with BYI's location marked. You take 400 divided by 375, you get 1.1 Miles from the runway as a VDP. The airplane was recovered to a secure facility for further examination. Nevertheless, based on the actual weather, security video and eye witness report, the visibility was 1SM at the time of the accident, giving the pilot only 16 seconds from breaking out, to react before hitting the tower. (Lateral integrity of 0.3 nm. Or maybe the pilot went around on the first pass *because* they were carrying too much speed. I have done this approach alot and I don't bother with 20 when burley is at minimums or fact that I can't circle to land 24 . You are on your own to figure out an appropriate descent angle to keep you clear of the numerous hazardous obstacles on final. The ladder going to the top of the stack is in three sections going to three platforms. Brittney lived life to its fullest. Gotta crank one out. (All of the info presented below is offered with the understanding expressed in this posting and by others regarding usage of ADS-B data. It can be hard to determine your altitude based on just the runway light, she probably had very few references visually to go by. The reported ceilings were well above the MDA, so unless you were sitting in the cockpit next to the pilot, you have no idea if they could make out the runway or not when they passed the MDA. In lieu of flowers, the Infanger family is welcoming donations for a scholarship fund in Brittneys honor. On a cold day, the 020 approach to Burley Airfield could hardly be worse. But I got my wish too. You have any proof of that? He wanted to ban jets at SMO and ultimately close it. Bet you have very limited Actual instrument hours if any. If the visibility was .5 SM better than reported, then the pilot would have had approximately 35 seconds from breaking out to see and avoid the tower. A wing collided with a tractor trailer, causing the aircraft to overturn into a tree line next to the road. From an Engineers perspective, looking at Google Earth Pro, the runway centerline runs within 5 feet or so from the stack that looks to have been struck by the left wing of the aircraft. And red frames/ladders would have been added solely so the personnel could go up easily to do stack sampling for environmental compliance, suggesting that the stacks existed by themselves for many years, before the exit point sampling requirement began. The now prevalent hatred behaviors were trained into people by subtle but continuous nudging from news media, social media and marketing. That sounds like either icing or engine failure or both to me. There is no RWY 30 at KBYI. There is a platform after the first section of ladder where you have to walk over to get to the second section, so that is not a broken ladder, it is the design in the ladder system. https://imgur.com/a/7FTQ82nThe runway has no VASI, PAPI or other visual glidepath aid to indicate that you are dangerously close to hitting those obstacles. Prayers for this family and those impacted by this tragedy. &0183;&32;A 35-year-old Madison man died and a 23-year-old Madison man was injured in a two-vehicle accident on US 421 north of Madison Sunday night. This was not the fault of any tower on the processing plant. ASN Wikibase Occurrence # 301345. The previous day's BYI flight diverted to Twin Falls.2. I noticed Dan's poor comm skills also and the pilot's incorrect read backs.Then to prove how dangerous the LNAV +V approach is, they fly it high, seemingly to prove how the advisory glide slope dragged the 208 down in to the tower. Kathryn s Report Cessna 525C Citation CJ4 N614SB Fatal. You don't have any vertical guidance at all, so if you're a bit low for whatever reason you don't know it then you're dead. On July 17, 2022, about 1204 pacific daylight time, a Piper PA-46-350P airplane, N97CX, and a Cessna 172N airplane, N160RA, were destroyed when they were involved in an accident near Las Vegas, Nevada. Four years ago, Burley airport lost their Federal Aviation Administration funding because it did not meet their safety standards due to short runways. no lift in warm/wet steam. All 5 of his points are irrefuteable. The pilot went around on the first approach well before reaching the stacks and also at over 200 feet higher. I'm guessing she was tired and flying in bad conditions, with a wall of steam from those chimneys and a roof cleared of snow by heat, and she mistook the roof for the extended threshold. Visitation will begin at 10:30 the morning of the funeral. "The silos were within TERPS requirements. Here are BYI and TWF METARs from that decision time:KBYI 131355Z AUTO 20005KT 6SM -SN BR FEW019 BKN026 OVC033 M03/M06 A2996KTWF 131353Z 24008KT 10SM BKN060 BKN075 OVC095 M02/M06 A2997(That decision to descend for BYI on the accident day didn't have the gusty wind, 1000' broken and one mile visibility conditions of the divert to TWF decision on the previous day)Visibility degraded during descent for the first BYI approach attempt:KBYI 131401Z AUTO 20008KT 2 1/2SM -SN BR BKN026 OVC033 M03/M05 A2996KBYI 131405Z AUTO 20008KT 1 1/2SM -SN BR BKN026 OVC035 M03/M06 A2996KBYI 131410Z AUTO 19008KT 1SM -SN BR BKN023 OVC028 M03/M05 A2996KBYI 131415Z AUTO 20008KT 1SM -SN BR BKN021 OVC028 M03/M06 A2997Conditions while circling back around for another try:KBYI 131420Z AUTO 20007KT 1SM -SN BR BKN021 OVC026 M03/M06 A2997KBYI 131425Z AUTO 20008KT 1 1/2SM -SN BR BKN021 OVC028 M03/M06 A2997KBYI 131430Z AUTO 20007KT 2SM -SN BR BKN021 OVC028 M03/M06 A2997(Crash was at 14:32 Z)(The above information was offered to show reports from the BYI automatic weather system for the full period covering the initial descent decision through to the crash at 14:32 Z. To Anonymous, dated Tuesday, April 19, 2022 at 2:55:00 AM EDTQuestion: What explanation do you have besides your technical dissertation of how to interpret ADS-B data for what occurred besides the broken busted minima mantra? Kathryn S Report Cessna 180f N180tb Accident Occurred August 20 2019 At Arlington Municipal On september 1, 2014, about 1050 eastern daylight time, a cessna 180, n6510a, was substantially damaged when it impacted trees and terrain during the initial. I do realize the Google Earth data might not be exact, but it's even showing the small drop at the precise edge of the riverbank, so I'm inclined to believe it might be valid, at least for relative elevation differences.At any rate, if the FAA obstruction listing is accurate, that only adds 16' of extra vertical margin to the clearances I wrote above. Even from a short distance, the stacks are completely obscured. The "Gem State Potato Processing Plant" blanches, cooks, and mashes potatoes 24/7. The approach path passes just above the smokestack, and there's no vertical guidance because it's LNAV only. "The obstacle she hit was less than half a mile from the runway and at or below 100 AGL"Correct. I listed them as assumptions because I considered the info unverified until we get confirmation of a measured stack height.If the FAA obstruction listing is correct, that means ground level at the potato plant is only 4 feet higher than TDZE (4256 - 100 - 4152 = 4 feet). The insurance company, the salvage team, the trauma center were all baffled at how I survived the crash. I can attest to having my aircraft rocked by turbulence simply from the warm air currents gently rising from a dark field, so I have no doubt that a concentrated column of moist hot air being spewed out of a row of smokestacks could have a very serious effect on a light aircraft. As a former freight dog, we had many rules of thumb or personal SOP, and the published current charts, OP Specs, and FARs. Among the victims were American singer and actress Aaliyah and members of her entourage, including a hairdresser, her . In high school, she competed on basketball, track, volleyball, and dance teams, served as a page in the Idaho State Legislature, was voted to Senior Class President, and graduated from Salmon High School in 2010 as a Valedictorian with a 4.0 GPA. Additionally, with the needles centered she would have been 100 feet to the right of the stacks on a normal GPS approach.Looking at the ADS-B track on the missed it shows her at 6950 which should be coming from the GPS. This was going under minimums on a non-precision approach and the results are as expected. He survived but required a series of reconstructive surgeries.He had flown in shoulder harness equipped aircraft but the Cherokee he was using for his own startup flight school was just lap belts:https://www.chieftain.com/story/news/disaster/2020/02/06/pilot-instructor-faces-tough-recovery/1738143007/http://www.kathrynsreport.com/2020/02/piper-pa-28-150-cherokee-c-n5969w-fatal.html. That's magical thinking to support a flawed theory about busted minimums.The earlier comment just said "short runway", no one said anything about not being able to land a Caravan on it. In her job as Commissioner Doris is in the forefront of efforts to retain the very busy Santa Monica airport which is threatened by a very small but vocal group of neighbors and an unsympathetic City Council. Such a bad place for a 10 story tall obstruction :(, Here are 2 images of what ForeFlight synthetic vision would have shown at 4300' and 4560' (MDA) respectively https://photos.app.goo.gl/dHgeEAniT9PpWu3o7. 0:32. advisory GS, that would have put her 50-60' below MDA. Sometimes it's relevant to the accident but most often than not, it just adds a layer of emotion that I can do without.When I look at this story, I tend to reason backwards: the Caravan hit a stack. Also, if were going to go there, Id go as far as to say most all were incorrect as to the cause of the incident of N56KJ. But remember runways don't vote "but we can't equip these airports with an ILS"That is a misguided statement, because it is not funding for an ILS but rather the surrounding obstacles at this airport that are preventing it from having better approaches. )Here are those two points, with map-pinned locations, measured distance between them and difference in raw reported altitude:Data and mapping at the edge of the Gem building:Wed 10:32:25 AM 42.5520 -113.7592 217 80 92 4,150 -857Call this Data Point "A" and google map pin it:http://maps.google.com/maps?t=k&q=loc:42.5520+-113.7592Data and mapping at 21 seconds and 2,650 feet horizontal distance before reaching the Gem building's edge and 300 feet higher:Wed 10:32:04 AM 42.5578 -113.7532 216 81 93 4,450 -750Call this Data Point "B" and google map pin it:http://maps.google.com/maps?t=k&q=loc:42.5578+-113.7532Determine angle using rise run:Rise: -300 feetRun: 2,650 feetFlown descent angle between final two data points = -6.5Now, repeat the calculation from JAMID to "B":First, find JAMID coordinates from FAA database:JAMID location coordinates: 42-33-59.2100N 113-44-39.3500WJAMID location converted to decimal: 42.566447, -113.744264Map pin the location of JAMID:maps.google.com/maps?t=k&q=loc:42.566447+-113.744264Choose nearest ADS-B data point to JAMID from FA track log:Wed 10:31:37 AM 42.5669 -113.7437 216 103 119 4,750 -663Call this Data point "C" and google map it:maps.google.com/maps?t=k&q=loc:42.5669+-113.7437(JAMID's location maps about 200 feet SWest of this data point)N928JP's location at JAMID includes an uncorrected altitude of 4,750 feet, 300 feet higher than and 4,166 feet horizontally distant from the Wed 10:32:04 AM 42.5578 -113.7532 data point "B".Determine angle from JAMID to "B" using rise run:Rise: -300 feetRun: 4,166 feetFlown descent angle between JAMID and point "B" = -4.1Everybody understands that ADS-B can be terribly inaccurate, but when you add the expected +50' pressure correction to the 4,750' reported at JAMID, the data suggests that the pilot appears to be "on" at JAMID. What does ADSB have to do with this preventable accident? AD Compliance Report April 2022. Second, if ANYTHING needs to be checked up, how about checking up our FEDERAL GOVERNMENT in WASHINGTON with out of control wasteful spending on taxpayer AND borrowed freaking MONEY!!!! Doing so would eliminate suspicion that there might be cherry picking going on. METAR:KBYI 131440Z AUTO 21008KT 2 1/2SM -SN BKN030 OVC047 M03/M06 A2997KBYI 131410Z AUTO 19008KT 1SM -SN BR BKN023 OVC028 M03/M05 A2996Track:https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N928JP/history/20220413/1300Z/KSLC/KBYI. They just list basic facts and observations with occasional cursory analysis. It is nonsense to suggest that because the perfect approach was 100ft to the side of the stack and above it, that it was okay! (Although it is interesting to speculate, and discuss.). According to a witness, located about one quarter mile away, he first heard, then observed the airplane descend out of the clouds then immediately went into a steam cloud, which was produced from a set of six smokestacks located on the same roof. I see no conjecture from the original post; only data from flightaware. According to the operator, the pilot was transporting cargo on an instrument flight rules flight from the Salt Lake City International Airport (SLC), Salt Lake City, Utah, to the Burley Municipal Airport (BYI), Burley, Idaho. The collision smokestack is 2,639' from the threshold (measured on Google Earth). Given the wing spans of aircraft, the rising steam, and a gusty day, 100ft is much too little. Doesn't make sense to say "I read all the comments" and then talk about runway lighting when comments upthread established that the crash at 8:32 AM was an hour and a half after the 6:56 sunrise. The obstacle she hit was less than half a mile from the runway and at or below 100 AGL, so unless you think the weather somehow magically decreased to 200 ft ceilings and half a mile vis, she definitely had the runway in sight well before she hit the obstacles, so "busting minimums" was not a factor.If you are focused on approaching a short runway, there is no VSGI to guide you on the required steep non-standard descent angle, it can be easy to miss the grey colored obstacles that don't stand out.
