1. plastic grid tiles. After grinding out the joints you water to broom up all the debris, then blow off all the dust, then hose off all the dust..and get those joints nice and clean. Its an old articlebut its been updated recently. The article above addresses flagstone joints in a dry laid applicationwith a gravel foundation. Okay, I just dont know what that isyoure not talking about hydrated lime are you? Yea, buy a few brick, cut them, do it right. How old is your patio? Now I am stuck with what is the best material to fill the cracks. I like your views and outlook so poly is out and screenings are in.not very keen on chemicals where the barefoot grandson walks! Just make sure to do the project at a time inwhich the weather is not expected to get below freezing for a good 48 hours or longer. Ive used products before where you actually add a binder to the gravel. Great article Devin. Im glad we didnt go with polymeric sand! Scroll half-way down on this link and find the section with the heading How to install stone dust in between your flagstones Sometimes people overfill their joints to begin with, then wonder why they have material spilling out onto the patioaim to have your flagstone joints filled to about an 8th of an inch lower than the top of your flagstones. Would prefer to be able to pressure wash is once in a while, so does stone dust make it impossible to pressure wash them? Chances are, they used a grout bag and soupy mortar mix.or just tuck pointed with somewhat wet mortar and didnt clean it up sufficiently while it was wet. You could do it either way, especially since you said these are stepping stonesfor stepping stones, i usually just use soil. I did find limestone screenings on this website: http://www.greenbuilderssupply.net/pr_bulk_materials_dumping.htm. Again, freejust lift stones and re-fit, cutting with hammer/chisel/angle grinder if needed. So idk what to tell you..then again, over the years Ive seen a few stone patios with larger gaps, filled with stone dust, and i built a stone walkway once, with large gaps filled with gravel. I am located near Blakeslee and want to get quality screenings for my flagstone project. I'm excited because I can do a number of project now. and it will still look natural. I am in the midwest and that is the closest thing I can find that probably matches what you described in your article. Do you think this woudl be a better option than concrete with our climate? Is there a solution I can spray on and use myself? Spread sand over the surface of the concrete and pea gravel. Placing a border around the perimeter of pea gravel paths and walkways is one of the best ways to stabilize pea gravel. So..what good shall it do me, if this unfortunately rigid and stable joint is natural, not synthetic? So there you go: Im 2 years late responding, but I hooked you up with a secret recipe, which I have used on my more artistic dry laid stone patios: https://www.devineescapes.com/artistic-flagstone-patios/. Do I just mortar the joints nice & tight and call it a day. Devin-Way to go! They get slippery. He wants to lay a new flagstone patio on top of a mix of sand mixed with cement(about 6 to 1). Seee this post here on sand cement or gravel. Theres also an adjoining bluestone path with 2 joints, but Ive used mulch for those and pounded it in; seems to be holding although it gets weedy of course. Or pull up some layer of sand and put screening in? I do not recommend paver setits basically polymeric sand, and I do not like polymeric sand with flagstone. I had them power washed so a lot of the sand was blown out. Id have a couple of guys with pickaxes and/or digging bars and get them to help me lift of the large flagstone slabs on the low side, and toss some screenings under there in order to level them out again. Also, no to weed barrier? To see pics of out slate patio and other recent landscaping projects, ck out my Picture Trail: Here is a link that might be useful: look at Landscaping Projects 2007, Favourite ROSES We Grow albums. To decrease the gravel carried away by any runoff, you can also add drainage trenches to your pea gravel installation. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo, http://www.alliancegator.com/2011/gator-stone-bond/, http://www.alliancegator.com/2011/gator-rock-bond-liquid-binding-agent/, VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. Does anything on this page (http://highlandls.com/products/) or this page (https://www.landscapeandgarden.com/gravel-decorative-rock) jump out to you as being the product you recommend? You want to go maybe 1 deep and maybe 1/2 wide. But the weeds are a pain to keep up with. Looks like it was not sealed properly. I just have to tell you . Finally, Ill bring back the stones and level them (with screenings?) If its built upon concrete, then it should be repaired with mortar. The existing patio settled in some spots, so im planning to regrade it with new stone dust to keep it pitched away from the house. the concrete is cracking, stones around the edges appear to lifting. Wait, wait, youre saying lots of stones move when stepped on. 2. Leave the joints about a 1/8 1/4 shy of the tops of the flagstones when youre finished. We have a large patio of flagstone set with concrete or mortar. I have a great photo showing this that I will email you separately. Sorry. Fly me out there and Ill make em fit nice, get some local ahem pro to do it right or maybe try some ground cover planting. Be sure to hose off and dont let muriatic acid sit long, as it can deteriorate the joint materialmuriatic acid eats cement. Love the info. Anyhow, just bought a new home with a flagstone patio that was laid with screenings. If you wanted to email me photos, then I could do some research, and then I could advise you. The previous comment about the smaller stones becoming loose made me wonder if using the red steppers will work. Screenings are crushed stone. It absolutely does seem counter-intuitive to introduce plastic to a landscape; thanks for articulating this so well. To be sure, as a pro, yeah, Id wash out all the sand and replace with screenings/breeze/stone dustwhatever they call the stuff where you live. All the flagstones should be lifted up, the sand replaced with screenings. I recommend screeningswhich are 1/8 inch and smallerand contain the very important finesflour-like, powdery stone dust. The joint however stays put.now you have a hollow void, either underneath the stone, or just beneath the joint. Must be a west coast thing. Also avoid non-porous rocks like pea gravel, river rocks, fish rocks, sand, glass marbles, etc. I dont know what type of drain they installed.or what they did wrong. Do you need hardscape help? Scroll down to the heading that says How to install stone dust in between your flagstones. The industry standard for flagstone installation these days, is still basically to use the methods, tools and materials used in concrete paver installation and adapt them to natural flagstone. This mix is damp enough that it clumps together without needing to be smooshed together with the trowelbut just barely: https://www.devineescapes.com/replacing-the-cement-between-flagstones/. I will give the dirt/stone dust mix a try next time it washes out. Stones will stay in place if done correctly. As such, when maintenance issues do arise, you probably want to call a pro and have them deal with it. If you want individual advice beyond that, I also offer phone consultations! The sales guy who sold the glue mess to the general contractor (yes, I subbed, once upon a time!) Come join the discussion about performance, modifications, classifieds, troubleshooting, maintenance, and more! Sounds like a lot of work and I have no place to dump the pea gravel. I cant recommend a particular company as Ive only stalled the stuff a couple of times. Hope that helps and I wish you good luck! Bagged stuff, like youd add to mortar? Quickrete mason mix type s. Green bag. This is professional advice, written by dedicated a stone mason/passionate stone artist with over 25 years experience. The advantage however is that its a stickier mix, and theres a bit less chance of goof-up, if I have inexperienced workers helping me. Pretty much all of my DIY consultation customers complete their patios, with the final product having much wider joints than I usually allowand then, out in california its popular to build entire walkways using nothing but stone dust. A site visit could be arranged, if necessary. And you were obviously very meticulous too. Otherwise, the DG gets everywhere. How can I create a smoother surface? This sounds like an ambitious project. We have 4sands as sub grade than we use Belgard permeable pavers that has 1/2 gap in between, and filled them in with 3/8 gravel. Fact is that you simply can not use polymeric sand as a replacement for taking your time and doing the job right. The gravel in some places is as much as 4" thick, so removing it is really the last thing I want to do. Woo-hoo, no need to remove a concrete foundation! You can make plastic from plants.and that may be less toxic and better for our eco system, than petrol-plastic. Likewise, you never joint with stone dust, sand, poly sand or DG in a wet-laid scenario. Anyway, I suspect white screenings are going to be too white for what youre trying to match. Does lime really extend the life of the mortar joint? It got cut off mid-sentence and Id hate to miss anything important. What to put between flagstone jointspolymeric sand or stone dust? One thing I forgot to ask originally was the issue of freeze-thaw cycle and the potential for the limestone to hold water and then potentially crack the flagstone. PDF for Aggregates/Sand & Gravel Washing Polymer Additions. Perhaps you could take a smaller piece of stone, create a mosaic up top of thatand use the resultant piece as a smaller paving stone, set on stone dust, among your dry laid flagstones. No freeze-thaw issues. The pea gravel will do fine imo. Most anything youd want to plant in between flagstones will grow in a 50/50 soil/stone dust mix. Should I just wait until it dries out? Wish I could hire you to redo my patio in New Mexico! *its a plant fiber. Next, snap the pavers into place over the top of the gravel and fill the empty cells with more pea gravel. Using pavers, like TRUEGRID pavers, to stabilize your pea gravel walkway is another option. The pea gravel is stable if it does not move when stepped upon and does not feel slippery. What Is The Least Expensive Patio Material. Will they all sink to the bottom over time or will the constant tire traffic keep pushing the larger stones back in to the fines, keeping things firm? I was hoping to create the entire pathway like this (no flagstones or pavers). in the cracks thinking the soil and plants will help hold the stones in place. And as it is not outside, we are not getting natural rain/drizzle/snow which might more effectively harden up the joint areas. Still, this stuff is what you are asking me for. You will likely need to repeat applying a binder every 6 to 8 years. Theres a lot of different ways to go about getting a flagstone stable. Have you had any luck, or heard of any way to do this? I know, you said youre not into sandneither am I, for flagstone joints. I did not want to mention this optionbecause I do not like it. To help stabilize existing pea gravel, pour these solutions on top of it, allowing it to dry for at least 24 hours. Separation will happen. When Im done, the joint material will be about a quarter inch from the tops of the stones. Pea gravel can be found in many kinds of landscapes and for various uses. Would appreciate your advice. Void forms beneath flagstone.joint settles in and fills that voidthen you top off joint. Use a rake to level the pea gravel surface. If you used screenings as both the leveling agent and as the joint filler, this is no big deal. The joint are fairly wide 1 to 2.5 average, and he even left some 3-6 areas along the perimeter walls. Where are you in PA? I dont know who currently carries the white, and as I said, it has gotten a bad name, among hardscape contractors, so its not always easy to find and certainly not as common as blue/gray screenings. Its looks like a flat matte color where there was poly sand and where no poly sand you see a beautiful high gloss high color finish.this is the best analogy I can think of. I have 1/4 minus which I used for the bed. Im really stuck and could use some advice- What might be the best solution? After 4 months, it starts to have wavy driveway. In fact.whereas I am opposed to using cement in the joints, especially if there is no concrete foundationi can at least see a reason to use cement there: trying to avoid weeds, and looking for a stable joint. I do not recommend poly sand. Each stone has been set and packed by hand (earth first packed by hammer, then stones packed with wood and hammer, sometimes jumping). Tamp the base rock until it does not move, as this supports the pea gravel. Id make the stones fit well first (assuming that the polymeric sand users left big gaps like they usually do), with a half inch (or so) gap between the stones. Thanks! Or falling matter from nearby trees can help cause that. We got heavy rain and its very wet and now some of the stones move and are sloshing around in the stone dust there are no pools of water but its really soft and the lots of the stones move and almost slosh down when stepped on. All around, cleaning up the poly sand haze is either a speculative affair, or a dangerous blow torch deal, best left to professionals! No polymeric sand. Even after several rains and power washing them, it is prevalent. Wide flagstone joints are okay.if you plan on planting say irish moss or clover or something. Id really have to see what you are working with, what the flagstone looks likeand then it would be a matter of looking into what is available in your area. Here in NE Ohio, limestone dust is all that is readily available. Well I understand that the stones may be too small. Really, do we want to build plastic landscapes? Joints are all tight at and average of about 1/2 to 3/4 inch in width. As it stands now, even a 20% improvement will satisfy them. 22 Reviews. I would look under the sink and see if you have any orange based cleaning products. I used the granite sand as my leveling layer, too. Stays slightly flexible so it doesnt crack ((yes.it cracks, sometimes)). I presume stone dust is finer than crushed granite, yes? consider setting up a phone/email consultation with a professional stone hardscape instructor. I would like to use something called a tumbled Colorado Red Stepper which is relatively small compared to other stones. Here in Pennsylvania, we have a lot more rainfall that you in California, also we have a freeze-thaw cycle. ( said with a Japanese accent):). This can trouble novices and pros alike. It is washing out. You also have to be very careful that the joint is filled all the way, and also make sure that there is no material left on top of the paving units, before you hose down. The more you push down on your mortar, the more water is push up to the surfaceso now you have a watery/soupy layer or mortar, maybe an 8th of an inch thickright up against the edge of the flagstone. link to Why Are Houses In Florida Made Of Stucco? But it still does not offer up any real benefit. Theres household cleaners out there, they sell them at the big box stores, probably grocery stores too maybe idk, but its a citrus extract and you have to be careful when cleaning with it because it dissolves some types of plastic. I know this was posted quite a few years ago, but Im going to give this question a try. Ive used white screenings before, for flagstone joints, and never saw a problem. Do you recommend using cement/sand mortar combination or to go with stone dust. The material beneath the flagstone may settle. We didn't try to stabilize it, but what we did do is to put down flagstones in the pathways. Stone dust, for life. I might get a bag and experiment with a small section, maybe at the start of the driveway. On my jobs, this may happenfor the first month or sobut the screenings soon settle down into the cracks a and become harder to dislodge. Fact is, no one really uses it, so I never encounter examples of good, or bad installations using the product. Fill the joints with stone dust/aka screenings, decomposed granite, ectthe same stuff you should use to level the stones out with. I think you use what you have available. Our monsoon rains also might wash it out. Other times I go with a crumbly-dry mix. They dont bother our river rocks by the pond but those are fairly large. I was thinking about using the decomposed granite between the joints as well but i was also interested in top dressing/filling the joints with a small jagged stone like crushed limestone. Hello: I just read your article regarding polymeric sand use, thank you for your thoughts on this. Thank you for your devotion to this subject. It was inspiring, insightful, knowledgeable and overall great advice. Get a product called gravel lok or a pebble binder product use them a lot they work great. Based on the photos, it seems they didnt remove all the mortar, more a partial job? Polymers: Thickeners. Your answers to questions were helpful, thank you. Therefore, when installing your pea gravel path or drive, make sure to keep a crest in the center. Therefore I very carefully applied the poly sand directly into the joints using a grout bag. My neighbors approve. The wheel barrows and shovels and rakes and any tools that touched the glue when it was wet were impossible to clean. To make the path very stable, you can also add a layer of decomposed granite after the base rock and before the pea gravel is placed. Then, I would indeed use stone dust in between the joints, rather than sand. Inch and a half Ill pass.but if theres stones with 2 inches or more of sand, then I expect to see more problems down the road. Sure, you could do that. 8-12 of compacted 21AA limestone (well compacted), decomposed granite and then filled the joints with decomposed granite. This is basically putting an acrylic binder, liquid plastic, on top of the joints. IF they did all of that stuff right, then such a chasm should not have formed. It works well. Often, gator dust is used by contractors who set the stones 3 or 4 inches apart, and that usually causes problems. Weed 2007, FWIW, I would forget the pebble idea for a dog run. Good luck with your flagstone patio and fire circle then . Thanks for advice. On occasions when I have wanted red for in-between the flagstones, Ive just used grey for leveling, and purchased a smaller amount of the red. The screenings will generally stay put, once theyve been swept into place and hosed down real well. And just fill the joints wit local soil. Againdo not spray round-up or any other poison unto your patio. And be sure to not overfill your jointsthe stone dust/DG should be a bit shy of the tops of your flagstones. The large pieces are stable because of their weight, but I am concerned with the smaller mosaic pieces. Thanks for pointing this out. It also allows for drainage, which can be beneficial in areas with heavy rainfall, as it prevents water from pooling on the surface. Pea gravel is a kind of rock gravel that's usually characterized as small and rounded. Scrub the top of the flagstones using diluted muriatic acid, with a shop book. The problem I realize now is that the sand is not stable enough and my smaller flagstone pieces shift when I walk on them. You will have to reapply at some point. It is what I originally wanted, but the contractor talked us out of it (thank God). Take it dry and rake it in with the pea gravel , you dont want too much cement sitting on top . Quikrete Gray Sand/Topping Mix 60 lb. Id remove the polymeric sand and replace with decomposed granite, stone dust, 1/4 minus/whatever they call it in your area. My concern is two fold. To first install the pea gravel, mark the area where the gravel will go and work the soil to a depth of approximately 5 to 6 inches. Can I sweep stone dust into the cracks now instead of sand? These surfaces are stable. Thinking of switching to concrete-frustrated poly user.help. The result might be messy, but would probably be a good base for something else (brick or stone?). The gaps range from 1/4 1 between stones. http://www.stepables.com/ stepables . Old timbers get new life as a decorative element in a cottage renovation. Huge draw-back is that instead of looking like gravelit ends up looking like porous black-top. This will lead to headaches. In my experience a wire-brush + elbow grease will get *some* of it up, when its fresh. I am building and outdoor shower and plan to use natural local stone, which can be fairly thick and irregular on the opposite side of a nice flat sided stone, perfect for a shower floor. Theres some things I dont know here.how long ago were the mortar joints done? Wanted advice for DIY backyard basketball court of size 42 feet wide and 28 feet long. Hi We are going to try and repair some ancient stone walls on our Marthas Vineyard property. Not my favorite option, but not a huge problem so long as b) they fit the stones tight enough. The joints are too wide. If your existing patio has mortared joints, then it likely is built upon a concrete foundation. Gravel-Lok, also known as "Gravel Glue" is a Polyurethane-based resin which when binds stones together when applied. If your stone is on a concrete base, then you want to repair it with mortar, not stone dust. -moss. Just approach the work with heart and youll be alright. We have a large sandstone flag patio, installed in 2011 by a company that used poly sand in the joints. Lay the 2x down on top of the trench and hammer down to tamp. I have never used a polymeric sand, and I am wondering if I made some out of the crushed stone I have (which is very fine, for filling the joints, and I have a lot of it still)? This stuff is the type of stuff Im talking about. Dig down to mineral soil, clay/sand, you dont want to build on top of organic material. Consequently, when you place chairs or tables on the gravel, it is less likely to be unsteady and cause furniture to fall over. A one inch thick stone can be used laid drybut the more surface area the better. As far as separation along the cracks goesthis is a matter of technique, not of product. Btw I am also in NEPA. To be fair Ive seen exceptions! The deck builders say they often use polymeric sand between the pool beam and deck pavers. Lay an inch of 1/4 minus (stone dust, oathway fines, DG) over this, screed out nice and level, hose down ( on the shower setting, dont soak) then tamp. Also do you use stone enhancer to intensify the color of the flag stone? Should I seal the granite? Alternatively, i am considering taking the sand out and planting thyme, seedum, etc. Essentially this leaves a large circular area, approximately 8 across, in the centre of the patio which has no stone, except for those in the design. So the stones just didnt get seated properly. does polymeric come in colors? Also, do you have any mortar that you prefer over another? Widen the cracks. My front walk is flag stone set in concrete. Now picture that scenario with a rigid joint. Portland cement should not be used. Hose down. Level the stones following this procedure. The rest are med to med-small with a few fillers. The first thing I want to do is find a way to make it less sloped. from what Im able to google on the matter, Im pretty sure 1/4 inch minus is graded properly to be used as a joint material. Not sure how far they are from you, but this material looks right. I live in the the finger lakes region of New York. How can I offer landscape advice if I dont know your climate? The 10-in. Thank you for your very fast response and for taking the time to answer my question. All the local supply places are pushing the polymeric sand (gator dust) but the 2 contractors I am considering dont seem to know much about using it. It will crack. Or am I better of using top soil? Call your local quarry. But when you want your walkways to stay in place, the round and easily moveable shape of pea gravel could be a problem. Add another substrate like sand, dry cement (not concrete), stone dust. Also, Id wait at least 2 weeks before powerwashing over new jointsand at least that long, more like a month, before using acid. Anywhere that sells gravel/sand/mulch, usually. We need to replace the joints and extend the patio 10 feet. Soil only becomes dirt if it gets somewhere it does not belong. So glad I found your blog, almost as much as finding a buried 1220 flagstone patio in our backyard! Or sand, if need be. Then, pour about three inches of pea gravel on top of this base layer. the process of building a dry stone sphere, for me, is always a cosmic and transformitive experience. Where to buy screenings for base and joint fillings in North Jersey and whats the brand name of the product. Tamp the soila hand tamper that you buy at the hardware store will work just fine, a plate compactor will spare you the strain (rob you of a good work-out.Ill be honest, a very good work-out. Bear with me here I dont know a lot about it but have you ever thought about using glass marbles, crushed glass, fish tank gravel in a more vibrant color something that would be a little more creative? Thank you. Ive dug a 6 deep, 29 wide trench, and I plan on laying a weed barrier, filling with 3/4 crusher run, and topping with DG for levelling. We had a pro lay a flagstone floor. https://www.devineescapes.com/flagstone-what-to-use-sand-cement-or-gravel/. Just shy of the top. Here, joints were intentionally left 4 to 8 wideand the space between them was filled with sod. Right now I am waiting for the contractor and his crew to show up to fix the problem. I prefer to keep them tighter, but 2 is doable. Devin, Thanks for all your thoughtful advise. Epoxy Resin. Natural flagstone, concrete paver and ceramic brick patios and walkways are set upon gravel foundations, their joints then need to be filled. You want to leave the joints approximately 1/8 to 1/4 below the top of the stone. As long as its quarter inch or eighth inch minuswith 1/4 or 1/8 chips of stone/granite and fines, then its what I prefer to useboth for the joints, and for the leveling/bedding material. I dissuade all of my clients from using polymeric sand. As a professional contractor, I generally just purchase road base, gravel, and compact it for my foundation. I havent filled yet because i am still adding onto it. DIY hardscape/masonry/flagstone help rates: I am happy to offer all of these DIY flagstone articles for free. Dry laid is hugely my preference, in any place with a freeze-thaw cycle. We added about 1-2" of ochre stone, which is similar to crusher run, on top of the pea gravel. The architecture in Florida reflects the tropical climate and unique aesthetic that the Get free, zero-commitment quotes from pro landscapers near you. Hi, love the blog, just stumbled into it and you have a great skill at explaining things. Scrub with the broom a bitthen hose off. I used the natural dirt to lay and level and pressed the flagstone cracks with the same. Ahhh, it is grande indeed. The mix is not a slurry and is very hard to tell from damp gravel. Theres other ways to deal with weeds, but this article is getting long. Everywhere where theres a quarry, youll find this product.perhaps with different local names. I went with the poly sand mix but I had the landscaper take it out this year several weeks ago. A wire-brush plus a lot of elbow grease will often remove much of the hazewill rarely get it all though. Install another 46 tons of gravel, this time the appropriate 3/4 minus, angular crushed stone with fines. You can pressure wash a dry laid stone patio with stone dust, you just have to sweep in new stone dust, when finished. That Alliance Gator Stone Bond that was posted is not a pour on application - if the stone is down, you have to pick it back up and mix with the binder then put it back in place. These stones will reduce the amount of traffic on the actual pea gravel. Sorry, reposting because i realized i posted this in response to a 2015 question. Youre the best source for flagstone info on the net. Next, I planned to re-do my leveling with sand and a plate compactor, followed by screenings (this hadnt happened before) & again the plate compactor. If the stones are set upon a gravel foundation: 1/4 minus. Shove some stuff under there. Devin, Thanks for the article. The flagstone are mainly grey from age. Take a look at some of the polymer sealers out there, Gator Dust, by Alliance, works with patio installs. Soil then, comes in many types: Hummus, sand, silt, clay, gravel. Before the coat is dry, apply sand over the binding solution. I rarely sub, but your outfit looks alright. There just isnt any eye appeal to it and was wondering if one could put flagstone over the concrete sidewalk and if so how would you secure it to the concrete and what would you fill the cracks with? 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